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Good point

Good analysis but it's give and take. When Gobert has been off the last three games Denver's other players can get to the rim easier. They need to play with the intensity they did in game 2 where I don't think they missed a rotation the first 30 minutes. But idk if that's really possible. Maybe in game 6.

@@michaelahurt I'm not saying Gobert has to be off the court. He just has to be kept away from guarding Jokic at all costs. He cannot be in there at the same time as Kyle Anderson, unless KAT or Naz is still in. Will the Nuggets work to get the switch? Yes, but that's where the Wolves coaching is supposed to come into play to figure out - do we stunt on Joker, do we try to get a body in front of him for a charge? Even if Rudy ends up on Jokic, *it needs to be difficult*. He has to be made to work and fight for anything he tries to do. The only way to do that without getting in foul trouble is keep KAT / Naz on him, keep them low, stable, feet ready to shuffle, and up against his body. No double teams, no reach-ins, no bumping hard back into him (which is almost always frustration on KAT's part). No gambling leaving your feet on shot block attempts. Until you get him worn down and tired, you play him extremely physical while avoiding anything that could give the refs a reason to call a foul.

@@JeremyGraczyk If you trap it's a 4-on-3 with no rim protection. If you drop Jokic will go downhill and turn it into a post up and if you double the post it's a lob to AG or Jokic is dotting the corner or a cutter. If you stunt then Rudy is 25 feet from the rim and Jokic is going around him or it turns into a 4-on-3 or lob or three because Rudy can't recover fast enough The only coaching strategy to keep Gobert off Jokic is to play zone and/or pre-switch so he's never in the action. But Jokic/Denver will find a way to exploit that too. There is no answer. That's why so many people call him the best offensive player ever The only thing that was effective was when the refs let Naz and KAT get in his legs in game 2 and actually push him but that seems like a one off. Not just because they aren't allowing that much physicality but because Denver is running Jokic off staggers now so those guys can't load up and Jokic can catch against a moving defender The safest bet is to take Rudy off the court and just double any matchup you don't like as they did in game two. Plus it helps the offense to take Rudy off

@@michaelahurt I personally don't think Gobert or SloMo should be on the floor when Jokic is so that there's even less risk of switching onto him. But realistically Finch is just not going to do that. So you have to gameplan what you do if they get the switch. Like I said, if they look to screen for Jokic? The screener's man needs to get in his way, whether that be stunt or try to draw a charge. The only way Rudy is stunting on Jokic 25ft away from the basket is if Gobert and Gordon do the pick and roll, which I haven't seen them do. Usually they try to get a switch for Jokic using a 2-man screen in the free throw zone, which is why it should be possible for someone to get in front of him and draw a charge. I didn't say it would be easy to stick to Joker or battle him, but they have to try. Its the only thing that works against him. There are other videos on RUclips literally showing this - there's one from about a year ago showing PJ freaking Tucker having success guarding Jokic this way!! Jokic was cooking Embiid of all people in the 1st half and the Nuggets scored 73 pts. 2nd half they put PJ on him, who's both strong and lower than Jokic's center of gravity, and the 76ers came back to win that game because Joker got frustrated and made mistakes

@@JeremyGraczyk I'm sorry you haven't seen them run the Jokic-Gordon PnR? I remember the PJ Tucker game. That wasn't the playoffs. Also, KAT and Naz aren't PJ Tucker. 6'11" guys can't create the same leverage as a 6'5" guy. That's like saying a 6'5" 330 pound DT should just put leverage guys like Aaron Donald does. That's not how physics works. (They also can't navigate screens like PJ Tucker because, again, they aren't 6'5" perimeter defenders.) But that's the same thing LA was doing with Rui/LeBron instead of Tucker. How did that work? Jokic is going to solve anything you throw at him.

Yeah Minnesota just doesn't have enough playmaking to punish teams for putting two on Ant. But that's what you get when you play two bigs and McDaniels.

@@michaelahurtMcDaniels as good as he is defensively his lack of anything to do with offense is really hurting the wolves as well

Every decent analyst has been talking about this for five years.

He’s still defending better than most if not all other players, as well defending generally well beyond Jokic if he has the opportunity. The other dudes couldn’t play as much because they were in foul trouble, but even if they were, Gobert is pretty much the best player out there. Jokic is just better

He literally shot 100 percent and had 18 pts (same as ant) and had 1 to while ant had 4 Kat had 2 and McDaniels had 3. I agree he has his limitations on offense but blaming the losses on him is stupid

​@@joshuadavis5899 ask yourself this, how was Minnesota able to obliterate denver at home with no gobert? Without gobert on the floor they looked like the best team in the NBA. Swarming on defense and raining hellfire on offense. Imo that lineup full of 2 way players is far more effective than the spacing black hole that is gobert

@@joshuadavis5899no impact, for every time Rudy scored he turned the ball over twice before that

@@SuperWubDub That was also when Jamal was injured, to be fair here + Conley playing I agree with your overall message tho

@@joshuadavis5899 i dont mean to blame him every player has their weaknesses im more so just pointing out that the "liability" in the playoffs on defense is a myth but he actually is an offensive liability

The offensive rebounds is relevant because he's not very good at rebounding out of his area. You can switch smalls into him with impunity because he can't punish you for doing it. But he definitely benefits from playing with multiple good passers who can create passing angles to get him lobs. He'd be much better with Luka or Harden than Ant or Mitchell.

He and Reid had the lowest at -2. This is one of the reasons I won't be that hard against Gobert.

@@retrictumrectus1010 Thanks. Please don't look it up, but I wonder what Gobert's plus/minus has been during the reg season, during the playoffs, against +500 teams and etc. Somehow he won and deserved to win Def Play of year, but often I watch the team play, and it looks as though he's the weak link. Oh well, I'm just a casual. Coaches know. He was definitely worth what the dogs traded to get him.

@@tarico4436 Last game was just Jokic putting in work, but I think it’s mainly Rudy’s lacking offense that’s the main issue. For all the defense, he’s not elite at offense. One could even say below average in some regards, which isn’t good for a major starter

@@Jonathan-A.C. Gobert's well below average on offense. He'll set some screens, but how often is he part of a successful pick-and-roll move on offense? Not very. Again, this is partly teammates not trusting him, partly him fumbling the ball when they do. Sadly, I don't think his offense will improve. The one thing he can improve on is him not going after the refs, making the "money" sign with his fingers, signaling that they're being paid to throw games.

-- could rename that heel the Gobert heel? lol

Not really. I mean in terms of Minnesota’s offense, I see that. But defensively, they’re as good as ever. Jokic is just better

If you pass to him you prolly gonna commit a turnover or hes gonna turn the ball over.

cuz he's trash

@@glovs4188 yeah he got ripped like twice but that’s because they threw terrible entry passes. Man is 7’1, throw it up high and every big man knows don’t bring the ball down when you don’t have to

@@beegteaevery big man does not know that😂 he doesn’t. In game, he doesn’t protect the ball when making a move

He doesn’t have hands or a simple post move. Nor does he use his physicality to dunk it. Same story why Mitchell wound never pass him the ball on the Jazz. Edit: also forgot he can’t shoot free throws that well. If he just had a single move or used his lower body better I think it’d be a different story

Playing Anderson is smart. When they put two on Ant you have a 4-on-3 so you need _playmakers_ not shooters. Especially since Denver can recover to the far corner shooter. Naz, KAT, McDaniels and Gobert can't further the advantage Ant is creating to put Denver in rotation. They need to play Anderson *more* not less. Naz is better in the short roll than Rudy but not as good as Anderson.

@@michaelahurt It’s also a matter of Ant not yet being very proficient in getting out of double coverage

@@Jonathan-A.C. Isn't that more about his teammates? Like no offense but you're gonna look a lot better swinging the ball to Derrick White, Jrue Holiday, Jaylen Brown and Al Horford than NAW, Jaden McDaniels, Rudy Gobert, Naz Reid and KAT. Tatum isn't exactly Luka Doncic. He just makes the pass the defense gives him and he has better teammates so it looks a lot better. When that outlet guy can take the pass and get downhill and draw the weakside defender and kick for a corner three that isn't because of Tatum or Ant or Shai or Brunson or whoever is being doubled. Making a pocket pass to Al Horford or Chet is gonna have a very different result than making the same pass to Gobert.

@@michaelahurt No, I mean Ant’s ability to get past getting doubled, not his teammates not shooting or playmaking of play finishing well enough. They didn’t do that well last game, but he’s also not that good at getting doubled and getting out of it. I don’t think Ant is shit at all-quite the contrary, actually…but he isn’t proficient in that specific respect, and Denver was able to use that to their advantage by doubling

He's not good bro. While Mitchell doesn't play defense, Mobley and Allen average 15+ pts playing with him.

thats why i said best teammate for luka is gobert. Said it like 4 years ago.

Some of yall don’t realize how legitimately awful his hands are. He’s arguably one of the worst starting bigs on the offensive end in the latest decade

Luka needs people who can vertically space. It’s crazy to say but Rudy can’t do that. He can’t jump either.

He just not good offensively. Thats why dmitch never passed the ball to him

Except Denver aren't gameplanning around trying to expose Gobert like LAC did when he was in Utah, Jokic is just going 1 on 1 and Jokic is a way higher level offensively than Gobert is at defensively. There is no answer to Jokic, if these wolves cant stop Jokic than no one else left in the playoffs can

if youre getting paid 200M to be your team's weakness, you deserve all the heat.

@@Ryancelotthank you

He didn’t have the perimeter defenders on his teams before, and now that he does, he’s defending amazingly. Jokic is just that good

@@xbugswrld To be fair, perhaps a team can win with their offense overcoming Denver’s. But yeah, no team can come close defensively

Dude they got young players, made 3rd seed in the west, had the top defense in the league with a dpoy/defensive culture changer in rudy, swept the suns, taking the defending champs with a 3 time mvp to 6 games, all with a soaring superstar in anthony edwards.. Also, first round draft picks are generally overrated, especially when you are a top 3 seed in the west. What more do you want? The rudy gobert trade talk should be dead. It was a successful trade

casual

cant believe idiots are still saying this LOL

@@jasonkim4994still a bad trade

Did you watch the video? He was so wide open so many times and didn't get the ball then you blame him?